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Addition Weapon and Armour Request

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Yak, Jun 24, 2017.

  1. Yak

    Yak Squire Community Champion

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    If they're going to include multiple centuries then I'd hope they would vastly expand choice and variability of equipment. They don't seemed very prepared to do that.
     
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  2. Creuzet

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    True. From what I've seen in playthroughs there isn't much varieties of weapons or even armour.
     
  3. Ramses

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    Problem with going beyond 13th century is weapon and armour development rapidly expands, look completely different and become frankly much better. I like sticking to 13th century as it gives a more coherent look on the battlefield and helps immersion immensely.

    In cRPG you could find vikings from the 800th century fighting knights in Milanese plate wielding flamberges from the 16th. That would be equivalent to a napoleonic soldier fighting a modern SAS specialist
     
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  4. Creuzet

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    From what I see, I don't think there should be any problem in having two handed sword, halberds, transitional armor or even full plate in OKAM, as long as you don't end up with zweihanders, flamberges, Milanese plate or Maximilian plate and as long as there is some sort of balance so in late Strategic you won't have 60% of the player base running around with high end items.
     
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    Pikes, but especially Awlpikes!
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    I also think you should add rocks that players can throw :p And figure out how to make one / two handed flails!
     
  6. SerGuillotin

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    Voulge/bardiche please thenx
    Brigandine armor
     
  7. Ramses

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    Sorry to say, but awlpikes are post 13th century. So is most "pikes" in the traditional sense I think.
     
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  8. Wiegraf

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    yeah, just looked it up.. Awlpikes were more a 14-15th century development sadly. However, Pikes in the way you state would have been having a comeback towards the end of the 13th century and suddenly re-emerged in Scotland and Flemmings it seems... Although there are ancient sources of certain German groups using "Long spears" by the Romans in the 3rd century, that does seem a little far too early for OKAM... nor do we know if they're the length of proper pikes or not anyways. Guess we'll have to settle for the Lances and Leaf spears we got for now!
     
  9. Ramses

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    Oh yea forgot about the Scottish schieldsturm or something. I think that may have been mostly post 13th century however.

    I think pikes are usually associated with infantry-heavier periods, and the 13th century is the height of the armoured knights, before the longbow of the 14th century and after the invention of the stirrup and the successful use of heavy cavalry in the first crusade :)
     
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    Speaking of weapons in the right period, I don't think there's anything wrong with having weapons from before the 13th century, as long as it isn't much before.

    Arguably the weapons being used in the 10th, 11th, and 12th century were still being used in the 13th. Okam seems to have mostly the iconic weapons from the 13th, but is still missing many of the weapons of previous century.

    As an example; shields. Currently Okam only has smallish round shields, kite shields and heater shields. What about large round or oval shields? I have a hard time believeing those weren't used. Round shields especially are very easy to make and large ones would provide significant protection for the low class soldier.
     
  11. Ouki

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    I want some sort of throwing axe :p
     
  12. Yak

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    But can those be used as a personal shield? I thought they were only carryable cover for crossbowmen?
     
  14. Yak

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    You could get smaller versions without the spike, yes. Would be good to have both in game.
     
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    Poleaxes, polehammers, warhammers, messers, morningstars.
     
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    There is already at least 1 variation of Poleaxes, warhammers and morningstars in game. Messers would be cool.
     
  17. Ramses

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    Sorry to be such a bummer but:

    The classic poleaxe is post 13th century.

    War hammers are definitely post 13th century

    Morning stars became popular in Germany in the fourteenth century, again too late. Maces with spikes however may have been used.

    Messer are absolutely post 13th century, with the possible exception of the Thorpe falchion (late 13th or early 14th)
     
  18. Yak

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    hehe I was waiting for your comment :D
     
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  19. Creuzet

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    That's great!

    I wouldn't mind a Thorpe falchion.